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This is episode 101 of the Pam Sowder Podcast, with your host, Pam Sowder!

Pam has over 2 decades of field and corporate experience and was voted one of the most influential women in direct selling. She helps match the daily needs of distributors to everyday life challenges.

Pam is so excited to share with all of you today an extremely talented mental coach who is one of the most trusted in the world of sports. His approach to mental performance is all about keeping it super simple with what he calls neutral thinking.

Trevor Maowad is a renowned Mental Conditioning expert and strategic advisor to some of the world’s most elite performers. He is so renowned in fact, that Sports Illustrated named him the sport’s world’s best brain training! His book, It Takes What It Takes, lays out lessons he’s derived from his greatest career successes as well as his game-changing wisdom around raising your performance level.

Trevor has transformed the lives and careers of elite athletes, business leaders, military personnel, and more. From all of his experience he knows more than anyone that if you are equipped with the right tools and knowledge, you can overcome any obstacles in your way and achieve any goal!

In this episode, Trevor shares the powerful mindset pieces that we need to put in play to achieve the outcomes we desire, the simple philosophy we need to adapt in order to thrive, how both our internal and external voices impact us over the course of our day, and the key pieces we can put in place to take ourselves to the next level!

Pam is so excited for all of you to learn about all of Trevor’s incredible teachings! Get ready to take notes and learn a simple way to enhance your performance!


Key Takeaways

[:08] About Pam’s incredible guest, Trevor Moawad!
[1:38] Why Trevor named his book It Takes What It Takes.
[4:42] What does Trevor mean by ‘neutral thinking’?
[9:21] How much easier is it to get to ‘neutral’ rather than ‘positive’? Is it a big leap?
[11:58] Trevor gives advice to those that get stuck in a negative mindset rabbit hole.
[15:55] How both our internal and external voices impact us over the course of our day.
[17:13] Trevor’s recommendations on how to be less negative to ourselves both internally and externally.
[20:00] Trevor speaks about some of his past health issues, his challenges surrounding them, and how he overcame them and found the upside.
[21:21] Trevor’s negativity diet challenge!
[24:39] The importance of mindfulness, imagery, and visualization and how it can help you perform better!
[28:08] Trevor suggests some actionable next-steps to take to level-up your game!
[29:43] Pam thanks Trevor for joining the podcast!


Mentioned in this Episode

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Tweetables (For Social Media Use):

“So many people who are negative and define themselves as realists catastrophize and they project the current bad situation into the future, and that’s irresponsible because the future hasn’t happened.” — Trevor Moawad

“Neutral [thinking] is that idea of non-judgemental [mentality of:] ‘This is the situation. I’m going to focus on what I can do next and detach myself from an outcome.” — Trevor Moawad

“I would tell everybody that listens to this: don’t worry about your internal voice. Just don’t say stupid sh*t outloud!” — Trevor Moawad

“If people just learned how to be less negative, they would never need to learn how to be more positive!” — Trevor Moawad

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